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governor romney is ahead by a little over a point in florida and just barely beating obama in virginia. so if these polls prove right, the president edges out in the swing states and is re-elected? >> exactly. and i would look at iowa and wisconsin. romney has to win one of those states. if he wins ohio, then he has a shot. if he can't get ohio, he still has a plausible path if he can get wisconsin. what has to be really troubling to the romney campaign is we're seeing more and more polling in those states and they are not moving in his direction and the president's turnout particularly in ohio has been very strong, very robust. so i think those two states in particular are going to prove and looking at florida and virginia, i still think the president has a very strong chance to win in florida and my home state of virginia as well. i think they could also end up in the blue column. >> well, they have to let everybody vote but i'll get to that later on in the program. alicia, the economic argument where you talked about the jobs numbers and that's what the romney people have to say, we
governor romney is ahead by a little over a point in florida and just barely beating obama in virginia. so if these polls prove right, the president edges out in the swing states and is re-elected? >> exactly. and i would look at iowa and wisconsin. romney has to win one of those states. if he wins ohio, then he has a shot. if he can't get ohio, he still has a plausible path if he can get wisconsin. what has to be really troubling to the romney campaign is we're seeing more and more...
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look, florida's a competitive state. everyone knows that. 48% of the people will vote for barack obama no matter what. but we think we can get beyond that and more than that. i think we will do very, very well. i am very confident. i can't guarantee it because have you to do it. but this is what i can guarantee you -- if the folks watching tonight who support governor romney vote and get the people they know who support him to vote, even if the lines are long, we will win florida and we will win the white house. >> greta: senator, nice to see you. it is a cliff hanger as we wind down to tuesday. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> greta: in two minutes, we have one nasty political ad after the next. one campaign is taking a keiner, gentler approach. will it work? will it work? that's 2 minutes wooohooo....hahaahahaha! oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to her! no you're not. i know. you know ronny folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happ
look, florida's a competitive state. everyone knows that. 48% of the people will vote for barack obama no matter what. but we think we can get beyond that and more than that. i think we will do very, very well. i am very confident. i can't guarantee it because have you to do it. but this is what i can guarantee you -- if the folks watching tonight who support governor romney vote and get the people they know who support him to vote, even if the lines are long, we will win florida and we will...
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structurally, that's always been the most problematic of the battleground states for obama. and if i were betting, i would bet romney carries florida. >> and we're hearing from the romney side that there's a bit of a head fake there. >> it may be. what a lot of strategists have told me is if you're going to make a play for a state, you need to do it at least three weeks before election day. so one week out, not even a full week, makes it tough. it might be too little too late for mitt romney where they are spending a lot of money at this last minute. but they've got a lot of money to spend. >> it's less a head fake than a hail mary ad. if they carpet bomb them with mitt romney and barack obama ads, negativity has been driven up in pennsylvania with bain ads. he's actually more popular in pennsylvania than he is in ohio and some of these other states that have been suggested in the obama ads. so it's a bit of a sneak attack. pennsylvania hasn't conrepublican in ten years. and pennsylvania sort of like ohio is not really hurting. if there was a lot of anger and hurt in pen opi
structurally, that's always been the most problematic of the battleground states for obama. and if i were betting, i would bet romney carries florida. >> and we're hearing from the romney side that there's a bit of a head fake there. >> it may be. what a lot of strategists have told me is if you're going to make a play for a state, you need to do it at least three weeks before election day. so one week out, not even a full week, makes it tough. it might be too little too late for...
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and barack obama did use affirmative action to, you know, be educated in something like that. do you think that there is any racial business here? >> no. >> bill: i'm not saying that in the pejorative. in the negative. >> no. >> bill: the general and the president came up the same way? >>. no because that means that if mike huckabee supports you, is there racism? absolutely not. >> i didn't say racism. i said racial connection because identifiable. >> i understand what you are trying to say there, bill. i think it's disrespectful. it's disrespectful to general powell. it's disrespectful to the president. you cannot take especially colin powell you can't take such a pedigree and dilute to to pigmentation. >> bill: you don't think shared experience enters into general powell's endorsement. >> you are telling me if president obama had not done a good job that colin powell, general powell would have supported president obama regardless? absolutely not true. >> bill: no, i'm saying he might be cutting him more slack. >> i disagree with you. you can try to paint it any way you want
and barack obama did use affirmative action to, you know, be educated in something like that. do you think that there is any racial business here? >> no. >> bill: i'm not saying that in the pejorative. in the negative. >> no. >> bill: the general and the president came up the same way? >>. no because that means that if mike huckabee supports you, is there racism? absolutely not. >> i didn't say racism. i said racial connection because identifiable. >> i...
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here he was in florida today. let's take a look. five stops down there. >> what president obama is saying, look at me, i'm always willing to work with republicans, i work with governor christie in new jersey on sandy. i tried to work with him on the budget. i tried to work with him on health care. and what they say is we'll work with the democrats if you put us in charge. now, that's the message, and you just have to decide whether you think that's a good message. >> there's bill out there. getting all the attention, but it's great. >> he's very popular in florida. i'll tell what you else, bloomberg, he might as well also be the mayor of broward county. there are so many new yorkers who are dual residents. >> they still read "the new york post" because they think it's liberal. >> they still read "the new york post." florida has 22% independents, people who listen to bloomberg and clinton, and that fema thing i think is also going to hurt romney. >> when she was declared the victor, it was over. >> florida may be too far a bridge for
here he was in florida today. let's take a look. five stops down there. >> what president obama is saying, look at me, i'm always willing to work with republicans, i work with governor christie in new jersey on sandy. i tried to work with him on the budget. i tried to work with him on health care. and what they say is we'll work with the democrats if you put us in charge. now, that's the message, and you just have to decide whether you think that's a good message. >> there's bill...
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in 2008, president obama beat john mccain. it says: >> cenk: so, apparently getting their clock cleaned in florida. does that make a big difference? >> it does. 2.8 million absentee ballots have been ordered in florida. 1.6 million have already been returned. there were only 2.2 million in florida ordered in 2008. it's a big difference percentage-wise. the fact that they're worried about it is important. follow what these people are saying constantly. when you see an internal memo saying their clocks are getting cleaned, their clocks are getting cleaned. >> cenk: if romney is trailing in florida or even close romney again in big big big trouble because he needs florida absolutely positively. all right, michael shure thanks so much for joining us. we really appreciate it. how much trouble is mitt romney in? we sent ben down davis to talk to the odds makers and how certain are they if they are at all that president obama's going to win. ben reports fromvasion when we return. >> you can't pick a winner? >> i would lose that bet.
in 2008, president obama beat john mccain. it says: >> cenk: so, apparently getting their clock cleaned in florida. does that make a big difference? >> it does. 2.8 million absentee ballots have been ordered in florida. 1.6 million have already been returned. there were only 2.2 million in florida ordered in 2008. it's a big difference percentage-wise. the fact that they're worried about it is important. follow what these people are saying constantly. when you see an internal memo...
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here he was in florida today. let's take a look. five stops down there. >> what president obama is saying, look at me, i'm always willing to work with republicans, i work with governor christie in new jersey on sandy. i tried to work with him on the budget. i tried to work with him on health care. and what they say is we'll work with the democrats if you put us in charge. now, that's the message, and -- you just have to decide whether you think that's a good here it is, quote, "washington post," through all the flip-flops there's been one consistency in the campaign of republican presidential nominee mitt romney. a contempt for the electorate. how else to explain his refusal to disclose essential information, how other than an assumption that voters are too dim to remember what mr. romney has said across the years and months, to account for his breathtaking ideological shifts. within limits all candidates say and do what they have to say and do to win. mr. romney by contrast seems to be betting voters have no memories, poor arithmet
here he was in florida today. let's take a look. five stops down there. >> what president obama is saying, look at me, i'm always willing to work with republicans, i work with governor christie in new jersey on sandy. i tried to work with him on the budget. i tried to work with him on health care. and what they say is we'll work with the democrats if you put us in charge. now, that's the message, and -- you just have to decide whether you think that's a good here it is, quote,...
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most people talking about here are showing what the polls are showing a slight edge for obama. and the question is who goes otut vote and whout to vote, and what happen s s toe undecideds, because there are still some. >> and we will let the viewers know how it stands in ohio. i though you have to get back on the tour bus. appreciate your doing that for us. >>> and the key battleground state ohio, and no offense, florida, because we love you, too. but i want to let you know about a buckeye presidential poll that will kick off at 4:00 p.m. on cn. meanwhile on the october jobs report, we have a plethora of information for you at cnnmoney.com. we will be back with a whole lot more on the election and mitt romney's live appearance coming up. [ nurse ] i'm a hospice nurse. britta olsen is my patient. i spend long hours with her checking her heart rate, administering her medication, and just making her comfortable. one night britta told me about a tradition in denmark, "when a person dies," she said, "someone must open the window so the soul can depart." i smiled and squeezed her han
most people talking about here are showing what the polls are showing a slight edge for obama. and the question is who goes otut vote and whout to vote, and what happen s s toe undecideds, because there are still some. >> and we will let the viewers know how it stands in ohio. i though you have to get back on the tour bus. appreciate your doing that for us. >>> and the key battleground state ohio, and no offense, florida, because we love you, too. but i want to let you know about...
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lewis was inspired to vote after president obama won the election four years ago. she said she promised herself if she lived to see another election she would vote. she requested a ballot by mail and a family friend helped her fill it out and turn it in. >> better late than never. >>> still ahead, from a superstar chef to local food favorites. >> the cooking show has a fulmen ewe of fun and holly's got more on that coming up in our next hour. turns out, romney doesn't oppose contraception at all. in fact, he thinks abortion should be an option in cases of rape, incest, or to save a mother's life. this issue's important to me, but i'm more concerned about the debt our children will be left with. i voted for president obama last time, but we just can't afford four more years. [ romney ] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. colin powell: yes. when he took over we were in one of the... [ romney ] i'm mitt romney worst recessions we had seen in recent times... close to a depression. and i saw, over the next several years, stabilization... come back in the financi
lewis was inspired to vote after president obama won the election four years ago. she said she promised herself if she lived to see another election she would vote. she requested a ballot by mail and a family friend helped her fill it out and turn it in. >> better late than never. >>> still ahead, from a superstar chef to local food favorites. >> the cooking show has a fulmen ewe of fun and holly's got more on that coming up in our next hour. turns out, romney doesn't...
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yesterday, romney spends all day on three stops in florida, a state that should be a done deal. by the way -- and then obama spends all day today in wisconsin, a state he would have thought would have been locked down by now. just their two schedules alone show you -- you know, how tight this is and that they are both trying to lock down states like florida and wisconsin that should have been in the bag for either one of them aircraft long time ago. i am not arguing arguing with y. look, this is going to be very, very close. anybody who thinks it's in the bag-- >>> i don't think it's in the bag. i am not going to say that. i want people, especially conserve testifies think they are a touchdown behind? and they have to fight hard in the closing days. but two emerging stories here. one is the libya/benghazigate, which has become a real problem. the president's been caught lying. it is not even a point of argument. the president goes in for a photo-op with chris christie and he's back on the campaign trail. he have gas stations shut down. we have looters breaking out. we have peopl
yesterday, romney spends all day on three stops in florida, a state that should be a done deal. by the way -- and then obama spends all day today in wisconsin, a state he would have thought would have been locked down by now. just their two schedules alone show you -- you know, how tight this is and that they are both trying to lock down states like florida and wisconsin that should have been in the bag for either one of them aircraft long time ago. i am not arguing arguing with y. look, this...
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in florida claiming that fidel castro's niece would support president obama. mitt romney gives chavez the news he desires but has no right to. >> he is just like castro! >> stephanie: smells like desperation. [ applause ] >> did you have to stretch your groin before that -- >> stephanie: yikes. >> i don't think that's an actual phrase in spanish. >> stephanie: it came from you. >> i know. god we said that in high school. >> stephanie: speaking of you, you are an official stephanie miller surrogate. and you will be representing me. >> i will at the palm springs pride festival at the booth of our fine affiliate, kptr and you will be meeting people. so if you are there come out and see me. >> stephanie: get it. what am i the president? i need surrogates? i can't go on the road anymore. >> not surrogates in the helen hunt -- >> stephanie: my surrogates are hot too. look at him. flex. good boy. atlas drugged, it's a world where romney and ryan's plans to privatize government becomes a reality. stephan goldstein, the author joins us now. hi stephen. >> good to talk
in florida claiming that fidel castro's niece would support president obama. mitt romney gives chavez the news he desires but has no right to. >> he is just like castro! >> stephanie: smells like desperation. [ applause ] >> did you have to stretch your groin before that -- >> stephanie: yikes. >> i don't think that's an actual phrase in spanish. >> stephanie: it came from you. >> i know. god we said that in high school. >> stephanie: speaking of...
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. >> and president obama is related to brad pitt too, that's another story. >>> one florida woman proves are you never too old to do anything, including vote. for the first time in her life, 99-year-old rosie lewis cast a ballot. she was seven years old when the 19th amendment passed, and lewis was in her 50s by the time jim crow laws abolished. her grandson said she was never interested in politics before. what changed? a huge hahn for presidefan of p. >> never too old to vote. >>> 5:27. coming up, political rally on the national mall that may bring people out in costumes. >>> a maryland state delegate accused of using state money to pay for a wedding. her lawyer weighs in on what is likely next. >>> he asked me do you want to die? i said no. >> a news 4 exclusive. a woman speaks out as police search for the man who attacked her. >>> a possible nor'eas anncr: which do you believe? what mitt romney's tv ads say about women? or what mitt romney himself says? mitt romney: do i believe the supreme court... should overturn roe v. wade? yes. and it would be my preference that they, that they.
. >> and president obama is related to brad pitt too, that's another story. >>> one florida woman proves are you never too old to do anything, including vote. for the first time in her life, 99-year-old rosie lewis cast a ballot. she was seven years old when the 19th amendment passed, and lewis was in her 50s by the time jim crow laws abolished. her grandson said she was never interested in politics before. what changed? a huge hahn for presidefan of p. >> never too old to...
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. >> in the days leading up to the election president obama plans to travel to florida and back to virginia. >>> republican presidential nominee mitt romney back in virginia today rallying supporters at virginia beach. he once again pounced on the president's economic record. >> would you want four more years where 23 million people are looking for a good job? would you want four more years with the declining earnings and raising taxes? >> romney heads to wisconsin tomorrow where he's expected to deliver his closing argument of the campaign. he'll then head to ohio where he's scheduled to make two campaign stops. >>> a maryland voter says she had some trouble at the polls this week. something strange happened when shed through to choose her candidate. now she has ad -- when tried to choose her candidate. now she has advice for other voters coming up. check out the rundown. we're back. >> this is fox 5 news edge at 11:00. >>> a lot of people taking advantage of early voting in the days leading up to tuesday's presidential election. one maryland woman tells us she al
. >> in the days leading up to the election president obama plans to travel to florida and back to virginia. >>> republican presidential nominee mitt romney back in virginia today rallying supporters at virginia beach. he once again pounced on the president's economic record. >> would you want four more years where 23 million people are looking for a good job? would you want four more years with the declining earnings and raising taxes? >> romney heads to wisconsin...
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president obama, that map is a little bit misleading. where he's really spending all of his time in the last three days is in wisconsin, in iowa, and in ohio. >> can he win with wisconsin, iowa, virginia, and florida? >> clearly, he will win with all those. he could win without some of those things as long as he holds onto wisconsin and iowa he could lose a bunch of other states. that's his firewall. he's spending a bunch of time in the firewall states like nevada and wisconsin and iowa. that's the way that he holds on even if romney somehow runs the table in florida, virginia, and ohio. if he can hold those other states, he can still win. >> chuck, you go along with that? >> i do. >> we need virginia and florida? >> i have been trying -- the sunday romney schedule had been in the dark. they had set it up. here is the sunday schedule. we just got it. iowa, ohio, pennsylvania, and virginia. now -- >> pennsylvania, they got a chance there? yes. is it likely? >> feels like they're looking for more paths and more opportunities. they basicall
president obama, that map is a little bit misleading. where he's really spending all of his time in the last three days is in wisconsin, in iowa, and in ohio. >> can he win with wisconsin, iowa, virginia, and florida? >> clearly, he will win with all those. he could win without some of those things as long as he holds onto wisconsin and iowa he could lose a bunch of other states. that's his firewall. he's spending a bunch of time in the firewall states like nevada and wisconsin and...
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net romney wasn't wisconsin but obama was an ohio early voting well under way including florida as candidates tried to close the deal. will the jobs report affect their vote? terry will list is with us. is this report each enough for someone who was undecided? >> i don't think so. 23 million still unemployed and underemployed. mitt romney can say the unemployment rate has gone higher. here is my take away. we have been down so long it looks like up. it is not good. if we grow every month adding 170,000 jobs it would take almost 10 years. people don't have that time. ashley: lakisha underemployment rate those who would want to work full time so 14.6%. >> with the northeast sandy affected 20 states have been a people are paying attention? but i wonder if voters are not paying attention if you have no heat or the kids cannot go to school your priorities maybe something else. we value these numbers but not every single boater boater -- voter. tonight we'll talk about the mayor and i cannot get pass this. >> new york city marathon will continue i think the phrase that i would use is tone deaf. tra
net romney wasn't wisconsin but obama was an ohio early voting well under way including florida as candidates tried to close the deal. will the jobs report affect their vote? terry will list is with us. is this report each enough for someone who was undecided? >> i don't think so. 23 million still unemployed and underemployed. mitt romney can say the unemployment rate has gone higher. here is my take away. we have been down so long it looks like up. it is not good. if we grow every month...
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president obama just barely captured florida in 2008 with 51% of the vote. george w. bush took 52% in 2004. he won by 537 votes though in 2000 over al gore after millions of votes were counted. so who wins this time could boil down to a block of voters who usually are reliablely democratic. let's go to john zarrella. >> you know, wolf, we are seeing a lot of tv ads in south florida. a lot of them, targeting jewish voters and that is something we have not seen before. not all the talk in florida this year revolves around the hispanic vote and how it will decide which way the state goes and it's not just about that stretch of asphalt between tampa and daytona beach in central florida called the i-4 corridor, where all the swing voters live. some say for the first time in memory, the deciding factor in florida could well be a block of voters who have always been steadfast democrats. >> there's no way a democrat can win florida today without two things happening. one, a large turnout in the jewish vote and secondly, an overwhelming democratic vote in the community here in
president obama just barely captured florida in 2008 with 51% of the vote. george w. bush took 52% in 2004. he won by 537 votes though in 2000 over al gore after millions of votes were counted. so who wins this time could boil down to a block of voters who usually are reliablely democratic. let's go to john zarrella. >> you know, wolf, we are seeing a lot of tv ads in south florida. a lot of them, targeting jewish voters and that is something we have not seen before. not all the talk in...
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in miami-dade county as well as the heavily populated counties around florida. you are seeing long lines of early voters. the vote wait, 3 1/2 hours. that's from the end of the line which wraps all the way around the corner of this building. you wait and shuffle along in 80-81 degree heat in this november -- early november in florida. then you have one of the most historically long ballot in history. charlie crist look at these long lines calling for an end of -- an extension of early voting hours and days. but last night the republican governor rick scott says no to that. we'll stick with state law. early voting ends saturday night 7:00 p.m. 3 million floridians plus have already voted by early voting and absentee ballots. breaking that down. early voting. the people you see standing in line. 1.3 million have vote. 630,000 plus democrats. the democrats with the higher edge in early voting. but when it comes to absentee ballots. that's where republicans have the edge. 700,000 for republicans and less than that coming for the democrats. 29 electoral college voipt
in miami-dade county as well as the heavily populated counties around florida. you are seeing long lines of early voters. the vote wait, 3 1/2 hours. that's from the end of the line which wraps all the way around the corner of this building. you wait and shuffle along in 80-81 degree heat in this november -- early november in florida. then you have one of the most historically long ballot in history. charlie crist look at these long lines calling for an end of -- an extension of early voting...
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we want to tell you that president obama's set to speak any moment in ohio. and we're back right after the break. everyone in the nicu, all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. i wouldn't trade him for the world. who matters most to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. if you're caring for a child with special needs, our innovative special care program offers strategies that can help. prand you're seeing that rightno quit in amnow.a... over five million new jobs. exports up forty one percent. home values... rising. our auto industry... back. and our heroes are coming home. we're not there yet, but we've made real progress and the... last thing we should do is turn back now. here's my plan for the next four years: making education and training a national priority; building on our manufacturing boom; boosting american-made energy; reducing the deficits responsibly by cu
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>>muchas iniciativas para impulsar el voto adelantado, yo voy a estar en la florida y barak obama también estará haciendo lo mismo. pero la decisión final la tiene uno mismo su voto cuenta, el voto hispano que es 20% del voto en estados unidos en tres estados cruciales, la florida nevada y colorado son sumamente importantes >>y cual es la mejor propuesta de barak obama >>dos. ha redoblado el tema de becas para la comunidad, y la salud. el presidente siempre ha estado con nosotros en el tema de inmigración y producir trabajos, es una persona que ha tenido una lucha en su vida y siempre, yo fui candidato, él ha estado con nosotros >>gobernador bill richardson muchas gracias por estar aquí, más adelante tenemos la contraparte con representantes de mitt romney. vamos al tiempo. >>muchas gracias, satcha, temperaturas actuales noroeste mucho frío temperaturas entre 10 a 15 grados dakotas con nieve noroeste temperaturas frescas. >>quiero que vean el sur, cielos claros, temperaturas en los 80s. >>miami, maxima 81, 0% lluvias por la noche refresca. phoenix 85 grados, fin de semana agradable
>>muchas iniciativas para impulsar el voto adelantado, yo voy a estar en la florida y barak obama también estará haciendo lo mismo. pero la decisión final la tiene uno mismo su voto cuenta, el voto hispano que es 20% del voto en estados unidos en tres estados cruciales, la florida nevada y colorado son sumamente importantes >>y cual es la mejor propuesta de barak obama >>dos. ha redoblado el tema de becas para la comunidad, y la salud. el presidente siempre ha estado con...
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let's help president obama packets bax's i move forward out of the white house -- pack his boxes and move forward out of the white house. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome from the state of florida, senator marco rubio. >> thank you. i love being in ohio. my refrigeratothis is just liken florida. my refrigerator may be in florida. [laughter] our next president and vice president will be mitt romney and paul ryan. there is a lot to say. we know what this election is about. what i love most about the presidential election is that it reminds us what is at stake. it reminds us how special and unique the american story has been. there has never been a place like this in all the history of the world. the drop in history of mankind, almost everyone has been poor and powerless. the same people kept winning and everyone else was under them until america. america change that because we believe that every single human being is born with certain rights that come from god and not from the government or the president. [cheers and applause] that is what is at stake in this election right now.
let's help president obama packets bax's i move forward out of the white house -- pack his boxes and move forward out of the white house. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome from the state of florida, senator marco rubio. >> thank you. i love being in ohio. my refrigeratothis is just liken florida. my refrigerator may be in florida. [laughter] our next president and vice president will be mitt romney and paul ryan. there is a lot to say. we know what this election is about. what...
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romney is very focused on florida and virginia, two states he must win to win the presidency. that brief pause for superstorm sandy seems like a distant memory, and on the campaign trail, the attacks were back. but, wisconsin, my bet is on you. >> reporter: president obama's delivering his closing argument. >> i know what change looks like because i fought for it. you have, too, and all we've been through together, we sure as heck can't give up now. >> we're going to win on november 6th. i'll tell you that. >> reporter: he countered the president's closing argument. >> i believe america finally needs real changed. it was promised. we're going to give it to the american people. >> reporter: the latest abc news/washington post poll shows a tight race, but some have president obama on top. it's now all hands on deck. vice president biden stumped in iowa. >> the american people are asking themselves the question these final days, who can they trust? >> reporter: bill clinton is working just as hard as the candidates. >> barack obama should be the next president. >> reporter: and i
romney is very focused on florida and virginia, two states he must win to win the presidency. that brief pause for superstorm sandy seems like a distant memory, and on the campaign trail, the attacks were back. but, wisconsin, my bet is on you. >> reporter: president obama's delivering his closing argument. >> i know what change looks like because i fought for it. you have, too, and all we've been through together, we sure as heck can't give up now. >> we're going to win on...